No, it's pretty clear the Old Kai is just talking about pure strength, otherwise he'd have mentioned that as the reason at that moment, instead of later on when Goku asks: Actually, the Fusion Dance merely ADDS up the power of two individuals with the SAME POWER LEVELS. I pulled nothing out of my ass, cretin. Aug 23, 2020 - Explore Stacey Green's board "ssj4 vegito & gogeta", followed by 533 people on Pinterest. Xeno Gogeta's appearance is identical to his main counterpart's. A top evolution form of the saiyans. Yeah, don't think so, he'd be lucky enough to be Universal, Vegito Blue would be the one that's more likely Multiversal XD, so i won't deal with it you Moron, of course he is even GT Goku base form is a universe buster he shaked the whole hell just by powering up a bit and I hope you knows that the hell is big as the universe. Technically since SS4 vegito doesn't exist in an continuity, we don't know what he's capable of. At max, that would mean that Gogeta is 36x stronger than SSJ4 Goku for instance. He battles his evil clone and sometimes he even is the hero of the day. Vegito is cool in his own right and we don’t deny his fancy earrings, but come on, take a look at the truly supreme being: That sick jacket (which only appears on those who successfully pulled off the fusion dance, by the way) that extra spiky hair, and that stoic look. Gogeta is much more powerful than Vegito, hands down. Although they are made in the very same way, Gogeta has personality traits that are different from Vegito, though it is impossible to tell which counterparts' personality is the dominant one. Cba to get the scan, but as I recall he never said anything about it being stronger, just better. SSJ4 Gogeta? Are you stupid or what, everyone knows that potara fusion is far stronger than the normal fusion. So 2 * 20-99. It would logically make sense that Vegito is stronger but we're all just making dumb guesses. Vegeto. If it was SB2 and it's movie Gogeta than this would be a close match. The only differences are the addition of a black sleeveless shirt covering his torso and black pants, as well as the padding around the neck and shoulders of the vest being yellow as opposed to his original's reddish orange.As a Super Saiyan 4, Xeno Gogeta's skin is tanner than it was in the Shadow Dragon Saga, with slightly lighter hair, dark magenta fur, and a sash and p… Goku and Vegeta underwent vigorous training in Super, and their base forms are light years ahead of their GT counterparts. This is a picture of SSJ4 Gogeta vs Vegito Blue, Ssj5 vegito came from dragon ball absalon and ssj5 goku and vegeta are from dbaf manga by defeating ize saga and super shadow dragons saga. In Dragon Ball GT, Goku and Vegeta fused into Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta so this will be a first for the anime.After seeing a new Vegito form in Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken Vegito… SSJ4 Gogeta is WAY more powerful than SSB Vegito… case in point Goku (& Vegeta for that matter), at the end of the Frieza/Namek arc, Goku w/out SSJ1 is 3.000.000 units. See more ideas about dragon ball, dragon ball super, gogeta and vegito. Experiment with DeviantArt’s own digital drawing tools. Well anyone who Knows DBZ would know that ssj4 gogeta would win.For one ssj4 gogeta is ten times stronger than ss2 vegito and ssj4 vegito is still weeker that goget ssj4, plus in that 30 min ssj4 gogeta would end it in 15 min! Add this together for the fusion (20x) and multiply it by "tens" of times and we have a multiplier range for a SSJ4 fusion of 400-2000x SSJ3. So Goku trained for 15 years, between Z & GT, during the 1st 10 years it’s likely that he (& the other Z fighters) got 2 Zenkais/day, w/ is 22 (2x11), so it’s 10x365 = 3650, x22 it comes out as 80300, & then he goes training Uub intensively for 5 straight years, an estimation of 4 Zenkais/day is fair, so it is 44 x 1825 (‘cause 5x365=1825), w/ is 80300 (again). Don't make me laugh, if you seriously believe those random numbers you pulled out of your ass, your IQ is below 0, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1hYJntH9Gw&t=148s, Huh, guess he indeed must’ve fucked off, good riddance. I think you're exaggerating a little on that one. I don't know about that one, but I believe it did. And since ssj4 multiplayer is unknown, even without the potara earrings ssj4 Gogeta could actually still be far stronger than ssjb Vegito because of … Next comes the 7-year ellipsis, assuming both Goku & Vegeta trained hard every day, let’s say they got 1 boost per day, which is 7 x 365 (number of days in a year) = 2555 days, 2555 x 11 = 28105. Without him stating its a stronger form that 'better' would only attest to the time issue the Dance has. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. ... Vegito wins, but SSJ1 vs. SSJ4? This gives a 4000x multiplier of ssj3. Omega is a Multiverse buster and Gogeta 4 can kills him with only one finger (stated in show and in the perfect files). As the SSJ4 boost is 1.600.000 times base (‘cause Oozaru is 10 & SSJ is 50 + it’s likely that a x8 boost is applied when a Saiyan pass from Golden Oozaru to SSJ4, which comes as 4000 & 4000 x 400 is 1.600.000): 160000 x 8,7x10^(38) = 1,4x10^(45). SSJ4 Goku is at least 10x SSJ Vegetto. Gogeta (ゴジータ Gojīta) appears in Dragon Ball AF, even reaching Super Saiyan 5. SSJ4 Gogeta is WAY more powerful than SSB Vegito… case in point Goku (& Vegeta for that matter), at the end of the Frieza/Namek arc, Goku w/out SSJ1 is 3.000.000 units. O and Astner is right I don't understand why you people keep saying that the Potara is x amount times stronger? Then (Dreams beings dreams again), the plot somehow changed to Goku vs. Vegeta as the last battle and SSJ4 Vegeta actually beats SSJ4 Red hair Goku. Gogeta beats Vegito even if Vegito gets SSJ4. Gohan at this point was more powerful than I think anybody else, now in Buu. If we take use SSJ3 as our baseline, then two SSJ4 characters have 10x multipliers each. GT may not be canon, but SSJ4 Vegito doesn't even exist. we see gogeta as a super saiyan yet not a ss3 even though goku could become ss3, where as if they had the potara earrings and became vegito they would be immensely more powerfull because goku could unlock the power of ss3 without actually becoming one. So 28105 x 198 million = 5 trillion units at the start of the Buu arc and then, there were 3 boosts during this saga, so 33 x 5 trillion = 183 trillion. However, given that anime series' non-canonical status, it is unclear if this is official. SSj3 Vegito would be way to powerful for SSj4 Gogeta This is the best argument and was exactly what I was thinking. If either isn't true than Goku wins One outclassed their opponent while the other kept up to par before defeating them. Uhh no. Pobre gogeta.. va a recibir la paliza de su vida... Vegito would be killing Gogeta in a single blink XD, super saiyan blue vegito cant win against super saiyan 5 vegito, I think he would win by default due to SSJ5 Vegito not being real XD, also, where did SSJ5 Vegito come from? It makes SSJ4 Gogeta comparable to SSB Vegito Besides that SSB Vegito cant handle Zamasu Black such easy as SSJ4 Gogeta handled Omega Shenron. Vegito hands down!! Super Saiyan 4 is a formed obtained from Oozaru. A Zenkai Boost is either 10,5 or 11x the original strength of the Sayian, & during the Android/Cell arc there were at least 6 Zenkais, 6x11 is 66, so it’s 3 million x 66 which is 198 million units 4 base Goku, at the end of this saga. And since his appearances have been limited and short, it is difficult to tell if his personality is a separate one, or a composite of both Goku and Vegeta, although at Super Saiyan 4 it seems that his personality is like that of Vegito (which leans more tow… If either side is a stomp then add in Omega Shenron to the side that would be stomped. As a Super Saiyan 4, Gogeta is 400,000. You're just parroting him. In the case with Goku and Vegeta, this means that Goku would have to power down before being able to fuse effectively, and even then they'd hae to be in perfect sync. At base form Gogeta is 100. akira toyriama said that vegito is the strongest charecter in dragon ball z 3. Nope, this just proves that SSJ4 is TRUE Ki control, meanwhile SS(shit) blue is not. SSB is terrible weak like everything else from this shitty parody show, Shaking Hell doesn't make Base Goku Universal XD, Beerus nullified an attack that was going to destroy the Mortal Universe, the Entire Afterlife (Hell AND Heaven) and the Kaioshin Realm located outside the Macrocosm while he was Suppressed to BoG God Goku level, SSJ4 Gogeta nullified Omega's Attack that was also going to destroy the Universe over time, So BoG God Goku and Heavily Suppressed Beerus also have a feat that's comparable to SSJ4 Gogeta, if not stronger, Base Goku also gathered Energy throughout the Universe and that was capable of one shotting Omega, while SSJ4 Gogeta couldn't one shot Omega with a Big Bang Kamehameha, Goku and Vegeta then surpassed that same God Goku and Suppressed Beerus from BoG in their Base forms during RoF, then can stack SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3 (Only for Goku obviously) God again and then SSJ Blue which is SSJ God going SSJ, Then Prior to the ToP, Goku overpowered a stronger Hit without using Kaioken, meaning Goku and Vegeta both had gotten over 10x stronger since RoF, meaning Base Goku and Vegeta are over 10x stronger then BoG God Goku and Suppressed Beerus and over 10x Macrocosm/Low Multiversal level, then Base Vegito scales above the Blue Goku and Blue Vegeta that scale above Kaioken x10 Blue Goku that fought Hit, then Vegito can stack SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, God and Blue on top of his Base lol, Also, "Shitty Parody Show" right XD, GT is more a parody then Super is, Super is actually Canon, while GT is just a Non Canon side story, also, Super in terms of ratings has done better then GT, not to mention has over twice the amount of episodes, also, Blue and God make SSJ4 look pathetically weak in comparison, at least the God forms don't turn Goku into a Furry. Ssj4 Gogeta vs Ssjb Gogeta and Ssjb Vegito Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. SSJ4 is commonly attributed a 10x boost on the prior max power (so SSJ3).. Fusion is now stated as their combined powers multiplied "tens" of times. Not my fault that u don't have an ounce of it, Logical? Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Why you’ll ask me, ’cause it was stated, shortly after the release of the Broly movie that Gogeta is as strong as his ‘bro’. It's been stated by the Kais that Potara >>>> dance. This form is pretty powerful. https://aminoapps.com/c/dragonballz/page/blog/the-greatest-highballed-scale-for-dragonball-gt/vdNT_nuwexqZ7XM8n2w5b73dp4jxGBm Here u go, u have to scroll a bit tho. Turns out, they used too much power, and they can't even go Blue. To put it in short, it's been proven SSGSSS or SSB Vegito is stronger by monstrous leagues. Then, u do 7,3 sextillions x 7,3 sextillions (‘cause fusion (both Potara & Dance) is X’s power x Y’s power) = 5,4x10^(43) (w/ is Vegito blue) & FINALLY x 20 (Kaioken) = 1,08x10^(45). Yes, as SSJ4 Gogeta is WAY more powerful than SSB Vegito… case in point Goku (& Vegeta for that matter), at the end of the Frieza/Namek arc, Goku w/out SSJ1 is 3.000.000 units. SSJ3 Vegito FTW! - SSJ4 drains fusion time by 66% - SSB drains fusion time by 33% with would still put them ahead by a nice margen. Then, u do 7,3 sextillions x 7,3 sextillions (‘cause fusion (both Potara & Dance) is X’s power x Y’s power) = 5,4x10^(43) (w/ is Vegito blue) & FINALLY x 20 (Kaioken) = 1,08x10^(45). Haven't seen the fight, but is it as one sided as SSJ Vegito vs. Buuhan or SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Omega Shenron? SS4 Vegito had the power to thrash Omega with all DB absorbed with not problem. In reply to the above: As a Super Saiyan, Gogeta is a 5,000. With in mind that SSJ4 is not much stronger than Golden Oozaru (SSJ x Oozaru) while SSB is SSJ x SSG, and the fact that GT Base can't stomp a Buu tier opponent while RoF Base can stomp tiers many times stronger than Buu, SSJ4 Gogeta really would get the Yamcha treatment in this fight. Although I have heard that in terms of strength Gogeta SSJ4 is considered the strongest being in the series, I think … the time difference between shenron and buu in a good amount of time witch means goku and vegeta also would have increased their powers greatly. Vegito - potara fusion is canonically stronger than regular fusion and doesn't have a time limit. SSJ4 drains fusion time more than SSB (believe it or not). The Perfect Files, volume 2 I believe, states that SSJ4 Gogeta is a few dozen times stronger than a SSJ4. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta, originally formed to defeat Janemba, and later reappearing in Dragon Ball GT to face off against Omega Shenron. Sell custom creations to people who love your style. His DNA was used along with his potara counterpart vegito to create Bowen. I think He could even be stronger. Okay, so this isn’t exactly a reason why Gogeta is stronger than Vegito, but it should be. Now onto Gogeta, first things first, Metamol Dance & Potara earrings are EQUALS! Vegito and (SSJ4) Gogeta are the strongest people in DB/Z/GT and a (SSJ3) Vegito would totally destroy SSJ4 Goku. ok first i want 2 state the fact that old kai only said that the potara fusion was better he never said y it could have been just becuz of the unlimited time so lets say theyre even also ppl r saying o well 1 know big bang kamehameha ppl they both they r exactly the same 2 mind put in 1 they both know bigbang/final kamehameha but vegito wins becuz of unlimited time n they r both very kocky so that would waste alot of time. Also the potara gives a power boost for rivals which is not stated for the dance. I understand that, but ssj4 vegito still would lose. well ssj5 vegito is from dragon ball absalon and ssj5 goku and vegeta are from dbaf, Vegito blue drains 1 hour fusion in 5-8 minutes, this is really good artwork, and i like that you used the tournament of power for the background, nice work, https://aminoapps.com/c/dragonballz/page/blog/the-greatest-highballed-scale-for-dragonball-gt/vdNT_nuwexqZ7XM8n2w5b73dp4jxGBm, https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/c3b9895323aec2ec1270f631b05cd1cbb53e769fr1-480-353v2_hq.jpg, https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/cb777edf07d29a4057f048c7232cb088756878d7r1-480-352v2_hq.jpg, https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/cd7b744cf018477a8f23133d03d7e04dcf572b88r1-480-356v2_hq.jpg, https://pm1.narvii.com/7211/e6768d9b70552c0895297cf12914307c94e4d7ear1-480-353v2_hq.jpg. The craziest, ultimate fight happens between SSJ4 Vegito and the ultimate villain as the red volcanic planet crumbles (Again, DBS Broly got really close to my dream), but then SSJ4 vegito defuses. So get dunked on! SSB Vegito lasted about 40 minutes going by Shin's timer (out of his 60 minute time period) whereas SSJ4 Gogeta only lasted 10 minutes out of his 30 minute period. Where is this info from, or like Astner said is it just speculations. re: SSJ3 Vegito vs SSJ4 Gogeta Personally I feel rivals boost is a Potara thing only. SSJ4 Vegito and SSJ4 Gogeta vs Thanos For the purpose of this fight Gogeta has no time limit. It would be fun tho! Ur too dumb, I'm ending this conversation, fuck off now! Find out what other deviants think - about anything at all. Well anyone who Knows DBZ would know that ssj4 gogeta would win.For one ssj4 gogeta is ten times stronger than ss2 vegito and ssj4 vegito is still weeker that goget ssj4, plus in that 30 min ssj4 gogeta would end it in 15 min! All we know is that it's supposed to be better and it has no time limit. Like holy hell, this is crazy in the best way!! SSJ4 Vegito is A What if Character Meaning What if Goku and Vegeta used the Potara Fusion to Fight Omega Shenron Being A Fusion of 2 Super Saiyan 4"s Vegito"s Powers are Increased By 10% Unlike Gogeta He Didnt Fool Around when Fused and Easily Beat Omega Shenron in Battle He Used the 100X Final Kamehameha To Make Omega Shenron Spit Out the Dragon Balls Making him Revert back into … Lol, your the buffoon, all that Math you did, it’s nothing but your head cannon, also, back then, Fusion Dance wasn’t the same multiplier as Potara, the GT Perfect Files state SSJ4 Gogeta is Tens or Dozens of Times stronger then a Normal SSJ4, I go off of feats, SSJ4 Gogeta was able to nullify Omega’s Minus Energy Ball Which was going to gradually destroy the Universe in a short period of time, since Elder Kai said they wouldn’t be spared, While Beerus, whom was Heavily Suppressed to BoG Arc SSJ God Goku’s Level, was able to nullify an Attack that was going to destroy the Mortal Universe, the Afterlife (Heaven and Hell), the Demon Realm and the Kaioshin Realm located outside the Universe pretty much instantly and turn it into Nothing, so DBS characters at the end of the first Arc already had a feat comparable to SSJ4 Gogeta, if not superior, Goku then absorbs SSJ God’s Power into his Base and both him and Vegeta train with Whis for Months leading out to RoF, Base Goku and Base Vegeta at that point scale above the SSJ God Goku and Heavily Suppressed Beerus from the previous Arc, Goku and Vegeta can then stack SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3 (Obviously only for Goku), SSJ God and SSJ Blue (which is SSJ God going SSJ) on top of their already insane Base forms, then later on, SSJ Blue Vegeta grew in power to the point that he beat Rose Goku Black down and he received an adaptation boost that made him Surpassed Kaioken x10 Blue Goku from the previous Arc, meaning Vegeta and possibly Goku had increased their power over 10x since RoF and are 10x stronger then God Goku from BoG in their Base forms at least, Then both fuse into Vegito, Base Vegito already surpasses Blue Goku and Blue Vegeta, then Vegito can stack SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJ God and SSJ Blue on top of his Base that already surpasses SSJ Blue Goku and SSJ Blue Vegeta XD, so no, SSJ Blue Vegito is the one that’s MUCH stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta, You are the buffoon, idiot, it's not my fault that ur IQ is below 0 (in other words, in the negatives), it's not headcanon, u shit it's LOGIC! 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